Talon: The Eagles Up! blog
We opened last Monday, and we did very well. This is just a little reminder to keep up the great work, keep visiting us (because we really do appreciate it), and spread the word about our opening.
As a reminder, here is a list of our contributors at the Talon:
Mon. - Rurik.
Tue. - Rosemary and Concrete Bob.
Wed. - Wednesday Hero and John Lilyea.
Thu. - Cao and Dave Jeffers.
Fri. - Ron Winter.
These are all fabulous writers in their own right, except for that Rosemary character. I don't know about her. She sometimes flies off the handle when she hears someone is messing with our troops. She gets so mad, I've never seen a person get that so blindly angry. I sure wouldn't want to be the target of her anger! No telling with crazy people, ya know?! (lol)
Please don't forget to read our front page also, Eagles Up! This is where you will find information about activities planned, news that isn't covered, and a host of other issues. You may also become an activist in this war at the homefront. Remember, to win this war it will take the whole country's will. Let us always be part of the solution. Thank you again. Have a great day.
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describing liberals' thinking. She was angry then. I let her rant about insults and stereotyping with her friends. I let them discuss the unfairness, the bias' all over vox. And then I tore loose. Comparing our troops, my religion, our country, my judgment to that of an enemy that uses piano wire to slice the faces of children of their own people, and using 14 year olds to carry bomb belts into our midst to destroy as many innocents as possible, dragging dead bodies through the streets in celebration, beheading on video to be posted on the internet. and they want to compare abu Graib and Guantanamo to that and talk about how we are just as bad as they are.
http://chezzag.vox.com/library/post/reuniting-the-children-of-abraham-ie-the-jews-the-christians-and-the-muslims-wouldnt-it-be-nice.html#comments
I am still working on her to come to an understanding of the differences. She still refuses to acknowledge this difference.
She is stupid. Number one, Muslims are only cousins to the Jews. When the Father calls us home, He does not include the cousins. We Christians are woven into the thread that is Judaism. That is only by Grace of God that we are able to be accepted into Heaven. We have been adopted, so to speak.
No one shall see the Father but through Me. Ye must be born again.
HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THIS? You don't. I did not make the FACTS. GOD did. So have the debate with Him! (She should.)
By the way I haven't forgotten that video and I still do intend to address it and you in about a months time once I get a few things out of the way.
Hoo roo!
I tried to, but he wouldn't answer me back. May be you could be an intermediary for me?
We Repubs don't think that way about libs. We think they are wrong, and blind to the consequences of their policy desires, but not evil. The policies we fear will lead to great evil, but the people who advocate for them are clearly desirous of good things.
That's why I sent you to that video. That's why I tore into you. It isn't just about fairness, its about recognizing that the forces for good in the world are being called the evil of the world and it will lead to evil gaining control and perpetrating worse world events than have ever been recorded in history. Obama has sponsored a bill which has already passed half of the legislature which will essentially bow the U.S. sovereignty to the will of the UN which is populated and controlled by many of those Tyrant headed nations. How else do they put (who was it?) in control of human rights commission. One of the worst human rights violators in charge of that commission.
Obama is either a fool or an enemy to American sovereignty and yet he is nearly worshipped by the left, liberal, Democrats.
Before I rant on, I want you to know something, I actually respected you, out of all of the conservatives I have come across - I actually did respect you, as you seemed reasonable, upfront and honest.
Well here in my country we don't see each other as evil, we are just people trying to do the best we can with what we have. I have actually in my voting history of 25 years, voted for either side of the fence depending on their political platform and what was going on in our country or the world at the time. So if I was in America I would have voted for both the Republican party and the Democrats at some time or another over the years.
Here in Australia in the main we don't have your huge Grand Canyon of a divide between our political allegiances. In fact we would be lucky to even know who our friends voted for, and we all do vote as it is compulsory to vote in Australia. As for this good and evil crap it is craziness. As one Aussie said, "It is as if the US in the grips of a civil war!"
Yes I have seen the 9/11 conspiracy stuff - that is utter crap. Is Bush responsible for 9/11, well no he wasn't. Should a country evaluate its dealings in the would when it is attacked, yes that would seem like logical thinking to see if a country's behaviour may have contributed in some way to the negative sentiment which may have lead to an attack.
Now please don't misunderstand what I have just said.
It is not a matter of blame, it is a matter of self evaluation. If I walked into a public venue and someone came up to me and punched me in the face, everyone including myself is going to ask, "What did she/I do to deserve that?" Possibly I did nothing or possibly I did do something which may or may not have warranted a punch in the face. Either way the question needs to be asked and if I did do something to bring on this attack then I make sure I remedy the situation depending on the circumstances behind the attack so that it doesn't occur again.
As for conservatives describing liberals, I have seen some very potent angry stuff written about liberals. Myself included, I am not sure if I have told you this but the name of my blog is "The Aussie Pot-bellied Pig", it wasn't always called that, but that name was given to me by one of your fellow US conservatives under some not so nice circumstances. Part of one of my comments on a post was copied and pasted (taken out of context) and posted on a conservatives post under the title of "........... liberals say Part 3" (yes part 3 because it was an ongoing series and my comment was part 3). I came across this because someone told me what was occurring to someone else, and then I discovered I was one of the people under attack. Like a bunch of jackals 5 conservatives totally trashed my comment and myself and I was called, "The Aussie Pot-bellied Pig". I couldn't reply to the comments, because your fellow decent Christian conservatives had denied me access for no reason, as I had never even been anywhere near that blog or those people before. The person who copied and pasted it could have confronted me on the post I had originally commented on, but no not him!
So forgive me if I am a bit suspicious of the pure intentions of conservatives, because from my own personal experience they can be underhanded, immoral people who do not deserve respect! Every time I have made comment in the form of a post of another's post, I have informed that person so that they know it and they are able to speak for themselves. If I have commented about another blogger's attitude I have never named names!
Oh do you want to know what the stupid thing I said was which deserved all of the fuss and name calling by your honourable conservatives, twelve months ago I said, "If America is serious about bringing human rights and democracy to Iraq why hasn't it done more to help the people of Tibet over the past 50 years", the funny thing now is, people are paying attention to Tibet and China, but 12 months ago well I was a complete imbecile for even bringing the topic up!
Out of interest where exactly did I debate you over intelligent design? I have written about "The Science of Creationism" quite some time back, but I have never debated about intelligent design and no one even challenged my articles about "The Science of Creationism". The first encounter I know of that I have had with you Bob is your post about Obama and his phrasing of a particular sentence which made him sound foolish. I could be wrong, but I honestly do not recall debating you over intelligent design. But if I criticised you almost to the point of irrelevance, I can only apologise, but honestly I do not recall the event.
Right so you pretended to be nice i.e, definition of conniving - to cooperate secretly; conspire.
Was I angry at you Bob or was I angry at the speaker. I was angry at the speaker and I didn't agree because in my mind what he was describing was stereotyping, so if you don't want conservatives stereotyped as evil (if that is how they are stereotyped) then stop promoting stuff that stereotypes liberals in a certain way. By the way only one of my friends made a comment about that video, one friend and it wasn't that big of a deal. In fact I haven't replied to her yet, but I think it is about time I did.
So let me say this I do not think you are evil, but you obviously think I am stupid. If you think that video is a fair assessment of all liberal thinking then fine, you think that - go right ahead. There is no way I can convince you otherwise. But I won't be saying you are evil, I have never said you are evil. I did actually respect you, as hard as you may find that to believe. But now it seems that your niceness was totally fake. Maybe the assessment by other liberals about all conservatives is correct, you see the problem with me is I try and think the best of people - it is my liberal failing, a failing which you would call stupid. I may get upset with people and their behaviour, but then silly me I try and rationalise their attitude and my attitude and quite often realise I was too quick to judge. No I am not referring to people who take piano wire to someone's face, I am referring to everyday people just trying to understand this crazy world we live in, people like you and me.
Do you want me to acknowledge the difference. Yes I acknowledge the difference. I feel like I am a Muslim having to continually denounce the bad things some Muslims are doing, but instead I am a liberal (here at Vox - not in my own country, in my own country I am just plain and simply me!) having to continually denounce either what other liberals say or try to explain what I really mean.
The fact is I hadn't replied to your comment because I wanted to sit down and watch that video properly and then I got caught up on that Muslim petition post and then I got very sick. Now I have got other stuff besides Vox which I need to address.
I actually don't care that you tore into me. But I do care about the way you have portrayed me here. Well at least here I am actually able to say something in my defence, you at least haven't called me horrible names or wanted me dead! Yes dead, funny how the nice conservatives who don't call liberals evil want to kill people who don't agree with them!
Face it, not all conservatives are nice people who think liberals are just stupid, some conservatives want to go a step further and no sometimes they are NOT joking. However some liberals are totally loony and think that there should never be wars and we should just lay down and die, but that is not me.
So I will go through your points about what I need to acknowledge and I better not get hounded on this post by a whole heap of conservatives for doing so. This is between you and me, so anyone else can butt out.
Troops: The majority of coalition troops behave admirably. Like any armed forces there will always be those who do not behave admirably - please remember I am an Australian and we have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and a few other places - so I include my own troops in that assessment. I am a realist I know that during war things occur and people do things which they would normally not do under civilised conditions and war in not civilised. Some actions cannot be excused and soldiers need to be reprimanded when certain things occur, in the main this is not common.
Your religion: Is like all religions and ideologies it is not perfect. Having said that at this point in history Christianity is not typically violent. Given unfortunate circumstances of society breakdown where a whole country's infrastructure has been broken down there is no guarantee that all Christians will behave well and not become violent. Just as not all Muslims have become violent in their respective countries, quite often it really gets down to a person's attitude as to what they may or may not be capable of under certain circumstances. Christianity if practised as it is intended is about love and fairness at the same time it is not about being totally passive either, sometimes for the welfare of many, tyrants have to be tackled by the best means possible and war is the last resort.
Your country: If I am not mistaken Bob, I actually said on your own blog that the word needs a democratic world power and America is it. America is not perfect and just like any country it can be improved, we should always strive to do better.
Your judgement: Well I actually respected you. I probably still do if we can move past this incident. Forgive and forget.
Graib and Guantanamo: It is not something to be proud of. The situation there needed to be addressed, people needed to be reprimanded. Surely we agree on that. I never said they were as bad as the things you described above. I said or I tried to indicate if we ignore things such as this then we may become the evil we are fighting. These prisons were examples of what can happen when unqualified staff are placed into terrible situations. It is an example of people who would otherwise behave well behaving badly due to the circumstances they were put into. I do not blame the individual soldiers, I blame the people higher up. I am not saying what occurred there was as bad as some of the things the "other side" are doing. There have been scientific tests that have shown that the most civilised person when placed under certain circumstances can be driven back to basic instincts and become violent. I am a realist, these things happen. It doesn't mean the soldiers at Graib are evil, it means they were placed under extreme circumstances and to be honest I have no idea how I would react under such circumstances.
As for Obama, well you don't have to worry I won't be voting for him.
So that is my crazy, stupid, mixed up, ignorant, naive, foolish, dumb, dangerous, socialist, commie, pinko, traitor, Stalinist, unpatriotic, terrorist lover, terrorist enabler, leftist, loony, conspirator, liberal rant over.
It is now dinner time. It is time I went. You know it really is ironic how I even ended up here, I came here because I visited the blog of someone who I thought was a friend and noticed Rosemary in her neighbourhood. Now I really wonder about that 'friend's' sincerity too.
But all is good. I am not angry, this has been fun :-)
See ya :-)
Dear Chezz-C'Tack, I did call you stupid, and I am deeply sorry. I pray you will accept my apology. It is rare that I do that, but there is no denying I did. I had to look to find out what you were speaking of because I could not imagine that was me.
I agree with JudgeBob. I do not think that ALL of the Democrats are evil, just wrong. It is helpful to carrying each policy out to its final conclusion before it is imposed upon the masses who actually have the power over them. We have allowed ourselves to fall asleep just long enough to forget this. Notice I said, 'We'? I am at fault as well!
About God answering us, He does not 'speak' to me with any words except those in the Bible. Do you remember that 'gut' feeling you get right before you do something that you're not sure whether or not is right or wrong and you do it anyway? Some people call that a conscience, I call that God's Holy Spirit trying to warn me. Either way, everytime, EVERYTIME, I've ignored it, I've ended up regretting it. To the point where I was almost murdered, but that was a long time ago.
Is it wrong to have dreams? NO! Most certainly not! This is how we have grown, progressed. What if no one was interested in learning how birds fly or wanted to go into space? Mix the two and we have airplanes! (Which I do not use. Too much polution for me.) Ah, yes, I do personally care about the environment, but I do not pretend that I am Holier than Thou. I pick up the litter around my little corner of the world, because God has called us to be good stewards. I do, however, distrust people who want to tax me for something that will put money into their pockets while at the same time they are not changing their behavior. Do you realize I haven't used aerosol items since the 1970's!
But this isn't what you asked asked. If you look up in the sky, look out over the stretch of the ocean, look into the eyes of a newborn child, feel the breath of the morning dew, wonder about the sun as it stays dormant as each planet rotates around it without runnng into one another, then you may...just possibly...wonder how something came from nothing. It has never been reproduced in any scientific project on earth, yet I am supposed to believe this is how we came into being and we are of no worth? I'm sorry, but that takes more faith than I have! I hope you have a nice day.
Dear Chezz-C'Tack,
I had written my first apology before I read what you've just written. You are correct for admonishing me. That is why I do not like it when my heart becomes dark towards another child of God. Again, I apologize for thinking and calling you stupid, and I pray you will accept my apologize. Please try to remember, just because I am a Christian does NOT mean that I am perfect. Far from it. I am working on it, though. ;)
I know it doesn't mean you are perfect, no one is perfect :-)
The problem is for some reason it seems to be mainly Christians who keep calling me names. I must really get up the noses of many Christians. Whereas I rarely call even people who are driving me crazy names. I get angry that is for sure.
You must have posted your initial reply nearly at the same time I posted my second comment to you. I wouldn't have posted the second one if I had of known your first reply was on the way.
Oh you can just call me Chezz, it is easier than Chezz C'Tack.
Of course I forgive you, you have sincerely apologised - so all is fine.
Is there more to life? Probably, I just don't know what it is, some people call it God, others call it something else and for me at present I am happy for it to be an unknown factor.
I am happy for people to believe whatever their version is of God or life, just as long as it doesn't negatively impact on another's rights or causes harm to people.
Good luck with your Talon project.
All the very best,
Chezz
Thank you so much, Chezz. The Talon is coming along finely. (http://talon.eaglesup.us/) We sometimes have people here that will disrupts funerals, our Support the Troops gatherings, and the such. I do not understand why they cannot leave us alone. After all, we do not try to harm them. There has been physical harm done by these so-called 'peace' activists. Maybe we have something in common? They acted badly, therefore I dismiss most of them as being peaceful. I know some of them are. I wonder, though, might we have won the war and been out there by now but for the actions of disunity? THAT is what really bothers me. There is no way to tell, but there is history. I just wish we go back to everyone caring about each other... Maybe I'll come by your site when a moment. You have a wonderful day. ;)
Bob I challenge you to show me where you and I had this debate. I have checked my own posts and unless you are the gay man who challenged me slightly about my Theory of Creationism posts, then you and I have not discussed Creationism. I have not been in a debate about intelligent design education issues on any other blog. Who knows may be I wrong.
However I believe you owe me an apology.
I also wonder what your motives were to even bring all of this to this post.
When I wrote my post which you have referred to, I mentioned the "Petition Against Muslims in America" which was being promoted at Vox. I did not go behind anyone's back in that post, as the two posts which were promoting it were informed of my post so that anyone from that post was free to comment on my post.
You said you on my post that you want respect, well if you want respect then going behind someone's back in this manner as you have done on this post, and spreading falsehoods about myself and my friends is not a way to gain respect. You also have put words into my mouth which I did not say or imply. You have twisted any words which I may have said.
I think It is poor that this has even had to play out on an unrelated post.
So if you want to be the victor, then the prize is yours take it.
Peace be with you.
I honestly don't know what the right thing to do is any more. I know most people have good intentions.
I apologise for coming over to your blog in this manner. I felt I needed to speak up for myself. I like your sense of humour by the way :-)
I will now leave this post in peace.
I sincerely do wish you all the best with your project. I care greatly for the troops too. They deserve every respect.
Thank you.
Peace be to you,
I always wondered why conservatives consider themselves as the moral leaders of the world? I thought part of being moral and religious was about having an open mind, being humble, and logical. Instead, most of what I noticed from the comments above was people being close-minded, anti-reconciliatory, and combative? Isn't it difficult to live in anger?
"Oh those big bad Muslims! They do this & that. Boo hoo..." Whereas the rest of the civilized world laugh at the fact that the Zionist controlled media in America dresses up a few wackos who have had suspiciously close ties to Bush & the like and they supposedly represent 1.5 billion Muslims. "Oh those naive liberals! Boo hoo. How dare they not crusade against the non-Christians! They have no right to work for peace."
"We must neo-nazi-conservatize them to show them the error of their ways! And Jesus? What did he know? I can't recall him preaching love and forgiveness! We are infallible, errorless, hand-selected by God, chosen people! Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh were the 13th and 14th disciples of Jesus. God only loves us."
The problem is that when you have media who have an agenda because they are on a payroll, feed naive people lies for such a long-time, they start to believe them. The reason they are so succeptable to believing it, is the fact that the prejudice & racism they harbor leads them to acceptance; meaning they want to believe such information, even if it seems sketchy. Like CNN's Wolf Blitzer. A man who should be indicted on war crimes based on his previous employment.
Anyway, times are changing. Governments and the media can no longer scare the people by trying to link hatred and prejudice to the teachings of the Almighty. So go ahead, come with the bashing, YouTube videos made by God knows who, insults, half-truths, and stereotypes. No problem. In the end, I just ask God to bless you all and may He lead the world to peace and frustrate those who harbor hatred falsely in the name of religion.
Question of the day: Hmm... That's strange... How can our satellites pinpoint a penny on the ground, yet when those terrorist thugs (and I believe they are) mail videos to Al Jazeera or post threats on a website, our government mysteriously can't track them down? It would be difficult to convince a 5 year old of this.
Have a nice day ; )
Sorry... just one thing. I'm curious, honestly.
So I'm wondering what you think of the countless Christian clergy who call Muslims their brothers and work together on interfaith dialogue and more? Are those clergy just misguided and astray? Are they naive and ignorant? Or should they rely on bloggers to show them the error of their ways?
Wow, I'm going to have to divvy up my responses to your address to me. Let me start by making one thing perfectly clear. I have never held ill will toward you. In fact, when I say I am working on you, I mean I care what you think and I'd like to see you come to the clarity of understanding I have on the main topic. My main topic is the theme of my blog at all times, Judgment. I want people to 1 judge people, 2 think things through 3 act on their conclusions 4 through a filter of patient understanding
You have one legitimate reason for loosing respect for me and for that I will apologize. I am guilty of gossiping and I recognize that now. I am truly sorry. So this whole sorry mess about you feeling something akin to a punch in the face is my fault. It was never meant to be that. I will go into what it was later.
There is a possibility that I have even confused you with a meaner Aussie and her friend but I'm fairly certain it was you. That person had confessed to being a nominal believer or words to that effect and had taken the Devil's advocate position along with others who were not believers. I'd have to go searching through a couple months' worth of posts on around 30 different blogs to find out for sure. That would make things even worse if I've taken that attitude to somebody who had not earned it. You don't remember a discussion about ID started over Ben Stein's movie? I could be wrong and I'm beginning to feel like an idiot.
Too much of this stuff goes on from all sides. I do my best to avoid it even when neighbors are gleefully engaging. It only reveals impotence in real discussions on important matters. Respect is an important part of my presence here and the verifiable proof of whatever point your trying to articulate is always just 15 minutes or less research away on the web if its legitimate so there really is no excuse for that behavior. By the way, the name works for you, only because its memorable. Now you are probably getting more traffic on your blog.
The criticism I experienced was inserted through the crack in respect due to my angry responses. The criticism was neither accurate nor relevant to the discussion, but similar to schoolyard crap that takes hold and, if allowed to continue, can give you a reputation that sticks. In this case, irrelevance.
Conniving
Yes, I went conniving. The idea meant in the use of this word was of a cunning plan. as in entering adversarily. The title of your post put me in that frame of mind because I know enough about Islam to know that is a pipe dream (nothing wrong with being a dreamer, to everything there is a season) and I know enough about wanting to believe the best about people that a shock would be required to shake that surety. and I wanted to have my ducks in a row after my experience in the ID discussion. So the video was meant to make you consider your frame of mind, It would naturally take a little while to get past the insult felt, monitoring your discussion told me when you were past the insult and excusing the mindset and that's when I re-entered the discussion to challenge the mindset. You weren't convinced anyway, but I'm still working on you. or I was until you lost respect for me. You say the video isn't the reason you've lost respect for me, I am glad to hear that.
More response later.
All those countless clergy are very busy people. It is a special calling to spend their days ministering to the needs of others. They have to keep studied in the depths of the scriptures as well. Yes, I think it would do them good to read some bloggers from time to time to keep up with events in the world and not depend on the main stream media which are anti-Christian and antisemitic and in fact anti-religion for the most part.
I have recently learned a little more on how many Muslims in America are being radicalized. A recent investigation in American mosques revealed that out of 100 mosques, 75 had the free radical literature the Saudis export to them. Now its a guess how many of those who attend those mosques actually subscribe to that literature but we do know that when Muslims are asked what they think about recent events or if they want Sharia etc., an extraordinary percentage think America deserves to be attacked and so on. Last report I heard was something like 40% but as we have discussed before, those who are silent, those who will not criticize Islam make that number small potatoes. Now we get to my former estimate that perhaps 3% are Moderate Muslim. I have to assume those folks either don't know the Qu'ran, or interpret to mean something other than all the others read or pick and choose among its teachings as pleases them.
You're comments are quite interesting, I must admit.
1. Okay, so the Christian clergy are uninformed, I see. Their years of religious study fails in comparison to those who "don't depend on the mainstream media." I will agree that the mainstream media is anti-semetic (anti-Muslim), since Arabs are a semetic people.
2. I'm glad that you have been enlightened on the "radicalization" of Muslim mosques in America. That's interesting since I'm a regular attendee, put polls and biased studies are more accurate than what is seen and heard in person. Thanks for the clarification.
3. I've proven before that the Saudi's subscribe to an American-sponsored Wahhabi form of radical Islam which most Muslims consider to be a perverted version of the faith. Also, just by sheer statistics, your 75% data figure claiming that such mosque give or receive free Saudi literature is clearly wrong. First, all 100 mosques would have to be Sunni because Shias would burn Saudi literature from the getgo. And most Sunni mosques label such literature as anti-Islamic propaganda.
4. America deserved to be attacked? No, sorry, that wasn't Muslims, that was Ron Paul (republican presidential candidate) who made that comment. Also, if the American government acts in a certain way, it is well aware that there are consequences, as is the case with any action.
5. Amazing... moderate Muslims must not know their faith but right-wing bloggers do? Yes, I'm sure you have learned Arabic and read the Arabic text of the Qur'an, studied it in a certified Islamic seminary in Egypt or Iran and have written your thesis on it. Also, Islam has official Qur'anic interpretations, since most Muslims are not formal clerical scholars, they rely on those, which have been in our hands for 1400 years.
Your arguments are weak. Remember, "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." So, under YOUR rationale, if you don't condemn the following crimes of your born-again crusader Bush, you are a Christian extremist:
1. Violations of international law: Illegal invasion of another country, responsibility of the deaths of nearly 1 million Iraqis (US obligation to provide security as an occupying nation), providing material support of terrorist groups operating in Iran and Lebanon (Fath-al Islam, Jund Allah, Monafiqen Khalq).
2. Support of dictatorial regimes: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the Lebanese illegitimate government, Israel.
3. Desecration of the constitution of the United States of America
4. Leaking the identity of a CIA member because her spouse criticized the Bush war-mongering policy then blaming it on the "fall guy" as they always do.
5. Orchestrating the recent bombings at the center in Shiraz, Iran to try to provoke Iran into a war (one of many)
6. Relying on false intelligence & a pack of lies to make the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of the United States
and the list goes on and on and on... Kind of a weird rationale isn't it?
I think even if some people are shown clear, simple proof, they won't admit defeat. That's a shame.
Bob I am being 100% honest with you. Yes I am an Aussie, yes I could be called a nominal believer, I have been known to get angry - in most cases I have apologised when I have been an absolute idiot and spoken too hastily.
I have never heard of Ben Stein or any movie he may have made. I honestly have no recollection of being in a debate about ID on someone's post. If it was me I would admit that it was me.
For a long time now I generally don't go to many other people's blogs except for friend's blogs. It is only in the past month, the same time I left that comment on your post about Obama that I have ventured over this way. (The Aussie Pot-bellied Pig - saga put me off venturing too far from 'home'). I have been keeping pretty much to myself. So when you referred to me as a regular I was actually surprised.
If the post you are referring to was written by one of my friends, there is always the possibility I may have made an off the cuff one time comment in support of my friend's view, I don't recollect doing so in regards to Ben Stein (ID) but it could be possible. If it wasn't on a friend's blog, then I know that it wasn't me. I know of at least one Aussie who is more opinionated than I am when it comes to the ID issue.
I hope that has cleared this matter up and please note I am being 100% honest. I am never afraid to admit when I have been in confrontations or acted badly.
I did say to Rosemary that I wouldn't post here any more about this topic, so I think that it is best that I don't. I am happy to start a fresh over on my own post when I am feeling well enough to do so. Although I doubt I will be converted to your world view, I am prepared to listen and discuss the matter rationally now that we have cleared the air some what.
I am wondering if any if this seems familiar in regards to a Ben Stein debate.
There was a post on Jim's blog which you commented on, and then there was a link from Jim's post to another post and there was an Aussie debating about ID on that post.
After having read about the Ben Stein movie, I now know that I have not commented on it.
Cheers Chezza.
2. I don't know that I can trust your testimony for the following reasons:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/066chpzg.asp?pg=1
And then there is the more fundamental fraud of using the 9/11 question as the measure of "who is a radical." Amazing as it sounds, according to Esposito and Mogahed, the proper term for a Muslim who hates America, wants to impose Sharia law, supports suicide bombing, and opposes equal rights for women but does not "completely" justify 9/11 is . . . "moderate."
http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=cairstarplex4.18.08%2Ehtm
“It's just a matter of time before the state of Israel be wiped off the face of the earth...Let's keep doing what we are doing, our weapon, our jihad, our way of struggling in this country is with our tongues...we speak out...this is the best we can do now...and our brothers and sisters on the other side of the world, they're handling business in their own way, may allah give them strength..."
http://oldatlanticlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/islam-watch/
After Muhammad conquered Mecca and established his power in his region of the Saudi Peninsula, he claimed to have received another “revelation” from Allah, telling him to break his word and some treaties. … Quran: 9: 5)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A996942
However, some religions, including Islam, have indicated that lying is acceptable under certain circumstances:
To save one's life (as said by Katib al Wackidi)
To effect a peace or reconciliation (Sahih Muslim, Hadith number 6303-05)
On the occasion of a journey or expedition (as said by Hishami; Katib al Wackidi)
In previous conversations with you, your arguments have clearly been misleading at best and clearly outright lies at worst. I said then and I'll say it again. You are either speaking from a deep bias or you are purposefully spreading misinformation.
There are more examples I don't want to take the time to dig up at the moment.
3 The Saudis are sending out all this literature for free using petro-dollars. That means the bookstores where all other literature is available are being undercut and are going out of business. See the special report done on radical Mosques in UK.
4 Refer back to the first link at #2
5 I'm sure you have learned Arabic and read the Arabic text of the Qur'an, studied it in a certified Islamic seminary
This is one of those ridiculous claims Islamists make. "You can't really understand what any verse says unless you speak Arabic and study it in its original form." Oh yeah, not only that, but "you have to be in a specific location on the earth to understand it too or get it from somebody who does/is."
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Since when is verbal criticism equivalent to stoning somebody to death? And have no doubt about it, I am a Christian extremist. The difference is, my religion calls me to sacrifice by spreading the Gospel of Christ by speaking the truth, not in spreading my faith by terror at the point of a sword.
Your list is a prime example of misinformation I mentioned earlier.
Back to this post on which I was on in a debate. As I have said I do admit when I behave badly. There was a post in more recent times in which I was not proud of my behaviour and I did apologise to one person on that post. I also admitted on one of my own posts that I was not proud of my conduct.
I never engaged in debate with you on that post, but there is always the chance that you read it and that is where you got your opinion of me that I am "mean". If you came across that particular post then I am certain that some of the things I said would have angered you. It also makes some sense as I was still hurting a bit after that post, and I think I was still edgy when you approached me on my own blog and it is why I reacted a bit defensively towards you.
Anyway I acknowledged I was in the wrong for some of it and I have put it behind me as a learning experience and have moved on. I think it is possible you have confused posts.
But our first encounter was definitely on your small Obama post.
I hope this clears up this matter, as I am going to move on now. Also it is 4.30am and I need to get back to bed.
Good morning/night.
Hi JudgeBob. How can I delete this ignorant person? He considers self-defense as murder. He considers murderers as peaceful terrorists. What the heck? I want this crap off my site!
AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, Go away. You have no business here. You are an anti-Semite, and YOU are a racist. I do not allow racists on my sites. GOOD BYE.